So if this baba is so blind that he can only see the sunshine and so foolish that he is ignorant of the existence of the sun you should abandon him and instead study the books of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Right after the Pandavas are exiled for thirteen years by Duryodhana they begin their journey into the forest. It is debatable whether Arjuna proved to be a good husband to Draupadi, but he was certainly a brave and true man. Quite frankly I would not recommend you join ISKCON as a full-time devotee at this time because there are so many problems with ISKCON and they will immediately preach to you “Prabhupada is dead, you need a living guru…” So it is bizzare. It is confusing for the general population because Krishna appeared on this earth as the son of Devaki. Currently ISKCON is completely poisonous. Time, as we experience it, only exists in the material world. For example, in your latest post you refer to nonbelievers as “demons”, and I absolutely condemn your choice of words because you forget to be compassionate and sensitive to others feelings. In the Gita, Krishna uses grand adjectives to address Arjuna, such as Sabhyasachi (one who is ambidextrous, i.e. It is material. leave it about me like ordinary devotees but it takes more than an hour to the some pure devotees also. Compete is sat, cit, ananda — eternal, full knowledge and bliss. Can you please refer me to Bhagvatam quotes to prove that indeed Krishna is This is one of the proofs that the living entities can never become equal to the Supreme Lord. Gite will say Krishna is Supreme because gita does not speak of any other Gods only Krishna. Arjuna is conscious of this so here he is not inquiring for himself. Srila Rupa Gosvami cites Arjuna as the example of a devotee who achieved perfection through friendship with the Lord. Where did you get this bogus idea. Unless you open the jar you can not experience the taste of the honey. Actually Bhagavad-gita can only be understood by the devotees like Arjuna. how and what kind of change it’ll bring to us gradually ? Krishna is present within our hearts and this chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra simply awakens our original spiritual consciousness. This state is called ‘brahmananda’ and that means there is a sort of ananda or bliss in this type of liberation. We have to surrender. The friendship between Arjuna and Krishna is the most celebrated bond and comes second only to the relationship between Hanuman and Lord Rama, in the Ramayana. It is seen as the perfect friendship with complete trust, enlightenment, teaching and support (Katz 82). They will tell you that Srila Prabhupada is dead and gone and you can’t surrender to him. The things are there and they are real, but temporary, as you note, but the idea that one can become happy by adjusting these things is illusion or maya. Consequently these explanations by Krishna to Arjuna can not be understood by demoniac brains. He is in our disciplic succession. Do these things sincerely and automatically Srila Prabhupada will instruct you through his books and Krishna will instruct you from within your heart and you will know what to do to serve Krishna, to please Krishna. It is Krsna’s duty to guide Arjuna through life and keep him on the path of his dharmic duties (Bryant 8). I know that eternally I belong only to him. One is incomplete without the other. Then no one would be able to hear it except Arjuna and that is not the point at all. The Bhagavad Gita begins here and ends with Krishna convincing Arjuna that in the grand scheme of things, he is only a pawn. ISKCON will not encourage you to surrender to a a bona fide spiritual master. If we do not follow the program he gives us we can not expect to become well, to become spiritually healthy, to become Krishna conscious. And that sort of yoga is practically impossible to practice now. The only way to be happy actually is by serving Krishna, Krishna and Visnu are the same, although devotees of Visnu can only worship Him in awe and reverence, like one would worship a king, but with Krishna we can be His friend, His parents or His lover. I discovered that many questions I have about the articles had been answered in one future one. Even if he seem to be in the material world he is actually in the spiritual world…. You have not missed anything. It is from a part of me Arjuna has taken birth. As far as maya there is certainly maya and if you accept the philosophy of dualism then there must be maya. happened from me so i not getting anything i begged baba to forgive Of course in the beginning we have no taste for reading Prabhupada’s books and chanting Hare Krishna. We are the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya so what we are teaching is coming through Madhavacharaya and his philosophy of dualism is not rejected by us but Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has extended this to acintya abeda beda tattva “Simultaneously one and different.” So Lord Caitanya has brought everything together. There is no change in spiritual life. This is there real answer. The two men’s bond grows even stronger when Arjuna takes Krsna’s sister, Subhadra, as his wife. Hare Krishna prabhu!!! Kathy. An episode in the Padma Purana – which is the book on Krishna’s knowledge and power and his life with Radha, a chapter talks about the friendship of Arjuna and Krishna. Anyone who is a constant companion of Krishna like Arjuna is certainly a liberated person but even a liberated person can not be equal to the Lord. Everyone heard the discussion. Maybe you have misunderstood what is maya. But ISKCON will tell you that you can not have any relationship with Prabhupada and instead you should develop a relationship with one of their ‘GBC approved’ gurus who that will openly admit are not pure devotees but they claim that is not necessary. It even seems to resemble a friendship at times, despite the fact that Arjuna is a human and Krishna is a god. So you can understand that the battlefield is just an example. That was the point. Krishna is your father: aham bija prada pita: ‘I am the seed-giving father of all living entities.’ The Hindu idea of yato mat tato pat: “Whatever you believe, that is right…” is NONSENSE, RUBBISH. We are the same soul residing in different bodies. To become a devotee of Krishna we have to give up this idea that we can be happy by trying to satisfy our senses by sex and nice food and by ‘partying’ and by falling in love and by relationships or by family or so many other material attachments we have. But without surrender to a bona fide spiritual master you can not get any benefit. the Supreme lord.When we quote Gita,they say oh because its gita and naturally Hare Krishna! Krishna said to Arjuna, that he is deciphering this supreme secret to him, for he is His devotee and His friend. So Krishna was speaking to Arjuna to encourage him to fight. Prabhupada, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami (1970) Krsna: The Supreme Personality of Godhead. There is no question of inferior or superior. Mahabharata is an introductory book for the less intelligent generally speaking. What u think for my asking i dont So better that we realize we are demons and do something to rectify ourselves…. I started seriously reading Srila Prabhupada's books in Australia 1985 and by 1986 Srila Prabhupada had convinced me "Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead" and "we should surrender to Krishna." So when bona fide spiritual master says we can not offer onions and garlic to Krishna then we have to accept that, not argue with it. Ultimately you need to realize this yourself by seriously studying the Gita yourself…. Surrender to Krishna and do what Krishna wants. to read every word of it. I joined the Hare Krishnas in Perth, Western Australia in 1986. Please speculate. What we are experiencing is Krishna’s energies working in different wonderful ways…. But she had a cow. Hindutva and the Bhartiya Janata Party, Noteworthy Figures in Contemporary Hinduism, 1. Hare krushna madhudvisa ji.i cant speak english well.iam a telugu girl.dasa ji what shall i do to become the real worship of lord krushna. That is our purpose. We have to know that is because we are diseased, we are contaminated by the material disease. The two friends immediately agreed to help Agni but Arjuna did not have the necessary weapons. Arjuna chooses Krsna as his advisor and chariot driver. Please if you have some time then guide me as to how I serve and love Krishna basically and then slowly and slowly I will try to elevate myself by reading the manual.I will be very much happy if you just guide me. Spiritual life is similar to material life. It is widely believed that the most important thing Krishna teaches Arjuna in the Bhagavad-gita is that “You should do your duty.” Krishna’s instructing Arjuna to do his duty as a ksatriya and fight in the battle is certainly a very strong theme in Bhagavad-gita: “Therefore, Arjuna, you should always think of Me, and at the same time you should … Srimad-Bhagavatam is not part of the Mahabharata. Brahmanadan brahmate kona bhagavan jiva guru krsna prasade paya bhakti lata bija. So Krishna can control it of course. Now I'm just hankering to once again see the world chant Hare Krishna, dance and feast and float away in the ecstasy of Lord Caitanya's Sankirtana movement as it did in Srila Prabhupada's physical presence. from India. I am a small devotee of Lord Krishna doing bsc. They may be able to put on a good show and ‘look the part’ but in actualityh they are completely unable to connect you to Krishna and completely unable to take you back home back to Godhead. Arjuna was supposed to be an avatar of Nara. It represents a relationship with god himself and how humans should treat god and be treated by god. This relationship starts out as one of family members (cousins), both princes from neighbouring lands. I liked this presentation except for the concern that you had mentioned about serving maya in the final phrase. The war happened because Krishna wanted it. So everyone heard it. any question in my mind i get answer for that in any form (like from His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Friends. As far as the devotees are concerned they have no desire actually to do anything except to serve Krishna. Sometimes Krsna is needed to show Arjuna the path of dharma and this is what he does through some of the stories in the Mahabharata (Katz 83). No wonder Krishna made Arjuna an instrument to speak Bhagavad Gita and also the hero of Mahabharata. He accepts the dualism and at the same time accepts the oneness. So why would Krishna stop time while He spoke the Gita? then from this you are inferring that everyone saw the Vishwaroopa of Lord Sri Krishna? It shows up in many of Arjuna’s actions and words. I like it more than anything I've ever experienced before. Friendship was seen in the earlier pastimes, as well. Most people think Lord Shiva is the supreme personality of godhead. Let the whole world drown in the ecstatic flood of love of Krishna! But Prabhupada is already there. However, I find some of the language you use to refer to the ones who are not very familiar with Krishna or have doubts about his teachings to be offensive. Through austerities and meditation Lord Brahma comes to understand that it is his mission to take charge of the secondary creation of the material world. Just chant Hare Krishna mantra at least 16 rounds a day, follow the four regulative principles [no illicit sex, no meat eating, no gambling and no intoxication] and read Srila Prabhupada’s books at least 1-2 hours a day. Therefore the Lord and the living entity can never be equal in all respects, even if the living entity is as liberated as Arjuna. So if you have any brains at all between your ears take advantage of associating with Srila Prabhupada. You can work out the exact age of Lord Brahma but very roughly he is about 50 and he lives also for about 100 years by his time scale and one day of Lord Brahma is 1000 catur-yuga cycles. But Arjuna was furious at this event and slew the wife of Takshaka with three well placed arrows. In choosing Krsna as his advisor, Arjuna shows his loyalty and support in his friendship with Krsna. The Appearance of Lord Nrsimhadeva Play — New Govardhana, Australia May 1991. We can note here that a living entity forgets everything due to his change of body, but Krishna remembers because He does not change His eternal body full of knowledge and ever-increasing bliss. Many many thanks Prabhu. Krishna consciousness is not something artificial that we learn or something that is imposed upon us from outside. So if you want to make spiritual advancement you must stay away from ISKCON. But the difference between Krishna and Arjuna is that Krishna can remember speaking the Bhagavad Gita to the sun-god millions of years ago but Arjuna, although he was there with Krishna, can not remember anything about this incident or anything about any of his past births. So if one is not a devotee he is a demons. Taking this, Arjuna and Krishna went to the forest with Agni. Rajagopalachari, C. (1950) Mahabharata 6th ed. Choosing the moment to leave the body has nothing to do with ‘health’. But really you will not be about to understand or appreciate any of this unless you experience it for yourself. Krishna and Arjuna discussed the Bhagavad Gita in the middle of the Battlefield of Kuruksettra and they did this because the Gita was not really for the benefit of Arjuna. So this ‘bhakti lata bija’, the seed of devotional service, is only available from a pure devotee of Krishna, you can not get it from anywhere else. Hare Krishna Prabhu, This Krishna consciousness is not something that is generally available. Arjuna’s mother was the sister of Krishna’s father. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Transcendental Meditation, 6. Spoken by a figureless voice, comparisons between Arjuna to the god Visnu are made (Katz 29). Once when roaming in the Khandava Vana, Arjuna and Krishna met the god of fire, Agni. 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